Looks Like University Of Illinois - Dylan Rosiek

Jun 22, 2020

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Maybe I'm just kicking against the comp. "We landed one lowly-ranked LB from East Lake HS and he was a Butkus semifinalist last year so the next lowly-ranked LB from East Lake HS will obviously be a Butkus semifinalist in four years". I see that and it makes me want to run in the other direction.

When one 1-in-100 player hits, it doesn't mean the next 1-in-100 player will hit as well. There's a 1-in-5 chance that Shammond Cooper is as good as Jake Hansen and a 1-in-100 chance that Dylan Rosiek is as good as Jake Hansen. That's just how recruiting works. The higher rating, the higher the odds they're a great player.

So when I see "Jake Hansen 2.0!", I get all "no no no no NO". I'm a guy who lives my life through the lens of comps, and when I see bad comps, I start twitching. That's not a comp. That's just two guys who went to the same high school. That doesn't make them in any way similar.

And THAT means that this will be a difficult LLUOI for me to write. Because I've observed all of this "we landed the next Jake Hansen!" furor, I can't help but run in the other direction. That's probably unfair to Mr. Rosiek, but hey, Jake Hansen was probably my worst film eval of the last five years (I actually suggested that his film was being played at 1.2x which is what made him look so fast on film), so maybe I can whiff on the Rosiek film as well.

Which is just so dumb because it's pretty good film. Let's start there.

Read the WR screen, run to the spot, stick him:

Read read read read read square STICK.

This play is so good. Lots of high school linebackers can avoid a really bad block from a bad offensive lineman. But to pivot your shoulder underneath that block so you can still dive and get to the ballcarrier's feet? That's great stuff:

So yeah, I'm already being too negative here. Blame those Jake Hansen comps.

The issue, to me, is I see a tweener. And yes, I do realize that I just gave Trevor Moffitt, who is 20 lbs lighter than Rosiek at the moment, 3 Cruises and I'm going to give Rosiek less than that. So it's hard to say "tweener" with someone lighter than Moffitt. But, for whatever reason, when I watch Moffitt's film I see eventual outside linebacker and when I watch Rosiek's film I wonder if I'm watching a linebacker or a safety.

That's probably because my comp here is Dawson DeGroot. A high school tackle machine who was a bit undersized and that limited the offers to Illinois and a bunch of G5 schools. If he was faster, he'd be a safety headed to Miami. If he was bigger, he'd be a linebacker headed to Florida State. He's a tweener (in my view), which is why Illinois is his only P5 offer.

Now, we're probably not coming off a bowl game if Dawson DeGroot had stuck with Florida International and not flipped to Illinois. Milo Eifler is kicked out of the Michigan State game in the first quarter, Dawson DeGroot comes in, and, in three quarters of football, has 11 tackles. Michigan State is held to 6 points in the second half, Illinois comes back from 28-3 to win, and Illinois is off to the Redbox Bowl. So yes, tweeners can play OLB in this defense.

But still, there's a reason half the country wanted Shammond Cooper and we're Rosiek's only P5 offer. Frame matters. Size and agility are 75% of the battle. There are tweeners who can overcome that, but it fails more often than it succeeds.

For whatever reason, I can see Moffitt growing into the OLB that Lovie needs (maybe Moffitt's college star dad is part of that?) but I also see Rosiek stuck in tweener land. James Knight can really hit. Dawson DeGroot can really hit. But their snaps have been limited simply because of size and agility compared to the players around them.

I would love to be wrong here. We really need linebackers in this class. And it's not like I see Rosiek like some 1 Tom Cruise recruit or anything. I just don't see Jake Hansen.

(Of course, I didn't see Jake Hansen either.)

Dylan Rosiek - 2 Tom Cruises


IBFan on June 22, 2020 @ 05:13 PM

“Size and agility are 75%”....ok well he has the agility, athleticism part in spades.
Speed, hands, vision, intelligence, form/technique he’s got it. Size is what percent...? Agility is what percent...? Speed? Skills for position? I don’t have the answers but does he play ss if he doesn’t bulk? The turnovers created, etc...dude is a football player. Maybe he was playing weaker competition most of the time but from films he’s one of the best athletes on the field every time. That’s it.pretend he’s a defensive athlete, not any specific LB, even though we need some , how many cruises? And eat your favorite meal before reconsidering. I think he gets some upgrade by signing day, like the Army commitment that blew up in the last year, we just offered, and kid just rocked all sorts of NFL combine numbers.

lucasmeducas on June 22, 2020 @ 09:33 PM

Jake Hansen 2.0 ;-)

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