Late Spring Depth Chart


Robert
Apr 21, 2021
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I feel like we learned a lot last night, so I want to update my depth chart from three weeks ago. First I'll tell you my internal debate on how to "chart" this defense. And then we'll get to the depth chart itself.

My main question with the new defensive scheme after last night: what adjustments will be made when facing pass-heavy offenses? I can already tell this is going to be a long intro because my brain already said "well to explain that you have to explain that". So let's back up.

First off, the defense was intentionally basic last night. The staff doesn't want anything on film that Nebraska could use. There's only one chance to keep the opponent completely in the dark, and that's the first game for a brand new coaching staff.

So the defense stayed in the same formation most of the night. As I wrote last night, I'm calling it a 5-2 because there were basically five defensive linemen the entire scrimmage. Two outside linebackers lined up on the edge, two defensive ends lined up between the tackles and guards, and a nose tackle shading the center. Those outside linebackers will drop into coverage a lot, but in formation, they're basically defensive ends outside the defensive ends. Five linemen, the two on the edges standing up.

Maybe the best way to explain this is to screencap the very first play. The offense came out five-wide (what?) and the defense stayed in that basic look:

That's kind of an offensive coordinator's dream right there. Five defenders on the line of scrimmage, two "middle linebackers", and four defensive backs to cover five receivers. Obviously there's a thousand different ways to defend this - rush four guys, leave one MLB in the center of the field, and then get six defensive backs out there would be one - but here, it's up to the OLB on the left side (Marc Mondesir, #54, the stand-up end across from Julian Pearl at right tackle) to drop into zone coverage.

If it's last year's defense here, there's four guys on the line and then one of the outside linebackers (likely Milo Eifler) has that responsibility. If it's Vic Koenning's defense, his hybrid safety/linebacker (think Nate Bussey) has that responsibility. Here, in a 3-4 that's more or less five defensive linemen, that DE (sorry, "OLB") has it.

Again, there's a dozen different ways to go here. It's possible that we never see this formation a single time in the Nebraska game. All we really know that we know is the thing I wrote last night: position-wise, we showed LOLB - LDE - NT - RDE - ROLB. An offensive line on defense. Four linebacker positions? Nah, more like four defensive end positions. Interior "ends" (Keith Randolph, Jer'Zhan Newton) have to do very defensive tackle-y things. Exterior "ends" (Owen Carney, Isaiah Gay) will rush the passer but also chase receivers a lot.

ALL OF THAT TO SAY, it's hard to chart the defense without knowing how they'll adjust to pass-heavy offenses. My guess is that there will be a four linebacker look which is much more linebacker-y and much less defensive end-y, to use extremely technical football terms. We'll put a guy on the edge there, but he runs a 4.6 40, not a 4.9 40. Might hurt when trying to hold the edge against the run, but would really help when dropping into coverage.

So after changing my mind last night and removing the 12th position on the defensive depth chart, I'm adding it back in. I'll chart the defense with 12 positions. The "extra" position will be "left linebacker" (LLB), and my thinking there is "when UTSA is passing for a lot of yards, we put Calvin Hart over there, not Isaiah Gay, and let him defend the receivers". Again, I'm just talking in generalities, so please keep the "does that mean Gay won't be on the field on third and nine?" questions to yourself - I'm just trying to find a way to chart what I believe will be a lever the defensive coaches intend to pull. So I'm taking guys like Calvin Hart and calling them LLB's (and then anticipating they'll play a lot vs. UTSA).

To the chart. New players for 2021 (recruits and transfers) are in italics.

OFFENSE
QB | Peters (SR) | Williams (rs-FR) | Robinson (rs-SO) | Spann (FR)
RB | C. Brown (rs-SO) | Hayden (rs-JR) | Love (FR)
FB | Rosenthal (rs-JR) | McCray (FR)
TE | Barker (rs-JR) ~AND~ Ford (rs-SO) | Reiman (FR-walkon)
LT | Lowe (SR) | Kirts (rs-FR) | Jones (rs-FR)
LG | Jeresaty (SR) | V. Brown (rs-SO) | Wisecarver (FR)
C | Kramer (SR) | Plohr (rs-FR) | Kreutz (FR)
RG | Pihlstrom (rs-JR) | Slaughter (rs-SO) | Tyler (FR)
RT | Palczewski (SR) | Pearl (rs-SO) | Okpala (rs-FR)
WR1 | Navarro (JR) | Sandy (SO) | Frenchie (FR)
WR2 | Armstrong (JR) | Thompson (rs-JR) | Bryant (FR)
WR3 | Hightower (JR) | Campbell (SO) | Beason (rs-FR)

DEFENSE
LOLB | Gay (SR) | Coleman (rs-FR) | Mondesir (SR)
LE | Randolph (rs-FR) | Pate (rs-JR) | McConnell (FR)
NT | Perry (SR) | Avery (JR) | Shipton (JR)
RE | Newton (FR) | Woods (SR) | Riggins (FR)
ROLB | Carney (SR) | Holmes (rs-SO) | Davis (FR)
LLB | Hart (rs-SO) | Cooper (rs-FR) | Meed (SO-walkon)
ILB1 | Hansen (SR) | T. Barnes (SO) | Rosiek (FR)
ILB2 | Tolson (JR) | McEachern (JR) | Darkangelo (SO-walkon)
CB | Witherspoon (SO) | K. Smith (SR) | Edwards (FR)
CB | Adams (SR) | Leitzsey (SR) | Nicholson (FR)
S | S. Brown (JR) | Hudson (SR) | D. Smith (JR)
S | Martin (JR) | E. Smith (JR) | Joseph (JR)
SPECIALISTS
Kicker | McCourt (SR) | Griffin (rs-SO)
Punter | Hayes (SR) | Robertson (FR)
Longsnapper | Tabel (SR) | Hall (rs-FR)
Punt Return | Navarro (JR) | Cumby (rs-FR)
KO Return | Cumby (rs-FR) | Love (FR)

First off, I'm certain I will change my mind on the linebacker labels four more times before the season. I mean, I changed my mind twice just today. But I keep looking at the roster and thinking they'll want to use some of this linebacker depth (once Hansen, Tolson, Cooper, and Barnes are back). As of today, the most likely scenario (at least in my head) is to have a package with linebackers at OLB, not defensive ends.

In a way, this is somewhat like using Fullback on the offensive depth chart and listing 12 positions. Remember the Wrigley game against Northwestern where we were running all those heavy formations with Jay Prosch, Evan Wilson, and Eddie Viliunas at FB-TE-H? Eddie Viliunas didn't show up on any depth charts, but when we went "heavy", he was a starter. So that's what this is attempting here. "We're going to have certain packages, and these guys are important and should be listed separately".

Until I change my mind on Thursday.

OK, let's get to some other thoughts. Maybe a list is best.

  • The orange jerseys were quite helpful in identifying how this staff sees the roster at the end of spring ball. Not just because five offensive linemen were in orange (indicating their starting OL as of today), but also because of the other players in orange. Four wide receivers in orange: Brian Hightower, Donny Navarro, Khmari Thompson, and Carlos Sandy. So there's the top four receivers as of now. Chase Brown, Chase Hayden, and Reggie Love were in orange while Jakari Norwood was in blue. That tells you Norwood is 4th right now.
  • A few guys who have been highlighted by the staff the last few weeks have moved up my depth chart. I've heard a lot about Quan Martin (was held out last night), so I moved him up to starting safety. Same with Prather Hudson, so I moved him in front of Derrick Smith.
  • For now I have Rod Perry in front of Calvin Avery at NT (Perry was held out last night so Avery started with the Orange team), and I also have Jer'Zhan Newton in front of Jamal Woods, although will likely change if Woods is 100% come August. The other three spots on the "defensive line" seem set with Carney, Gay, and Randolph. Seth Coleman might make a push for a starting spot, but the only reason he started last night was because Isaiah Gay had class until 7:00.
  • I'm going with "ILB1" and "ILB2" because it seems to be a simple "two middle linebackers" situation and not a Mike and a Will. But this is just the first viewing, so I'll probably change that come fall.
  • I watched the game again today and noticed that the Blue Team offensive line rotated a lot of guys but Verdis Brown was out there at left guard nearly the entire time. Which, I'm thinking, means they want to get him reps on the left side (he started at right guard all last season). So maybe Alex Pihlstrom is simply the locked-in starter at right guard with Verdis battling Blake Jeresaty for left guard?
  • Filling out the OL chart made me think about next year and I just feel like Julian Pearl might end up over at left tackle after Vederian Lowe graduates. For now, if we're talking tackles in 2022, put me down for Pearl at left tackle and Moses Okpala at right tackle.
  • On the first series for the Blue Team the OL was Okpala - Slaughter - Plohr - Brown - Kirts. But then they rotated left tackle nearly every series (while Plohr and Brown stayed in there most of the time). The three tackles rotating in that I saw: Kirts, Jones, and Sparks.
  • The guy out there for the first kickoff of the scrimmage: Kyron Cumby. The guy out there for the first punt of the scrimmage: Donny Navarro. So I put both of them, for now, as the starters at those two return spots.
  • I'm leaving Notre Dame transfer Jafar Armstrong (he's not here yet - he graduates at Notre Dame next month) in the starting lineup for now. This team needs WR help, so I'm plugging him in as a starter sight unseen.

Overall, a lot of this feels pretty set in stone. I'm guessing there's still a 3-for-2-spots battle at offensive guard between Jeresaty, Pihlstrom, and Brown, and the third WR to start with Navarro and Hightower is up in the air, and on defense the question is who starts with Hansen at the other ILB spot (and, I guess, who are the two starting safeties). But everything else seems set. Including, at least for now, Brandon Peters starting at QB.

But once I get finished with my "Check The Tape - Why Deuce Spann Will Win The Heisman THIS YEAR" post, we'll have a real-deal QB controversy on our hands.

Comments

Brave Illini on April 21, 2021 @ 08:11 AM

Well done - informative and understandable.

Nashvegas Illini on April 21, 2021 @ 08:42 AM

You mean why Deuce Spann will put his name in the transfer portal by game 5? Its pretty obvious they are not high on any of the QBs outside of Peters.

Really like seeing some of the pro sets with the easy passes to the tight ends and running backs.

Robert on April 21, 2021 @ 08:57 AM

Please explain what you mean by "obvious". That's now how I've seen it, so I'm curious what you've seen.

Nashvegas Illini on April 21, 2021 @ 01:49 PM

This is as much to one of your other posts around offensive linemen. They've recruited multiple QBs that are pocket passers and looks like they will sign more than one QB in this class (with 1 committed). I believe they're doing this because they don't like the QBs in the room. Then I watched the game and noticed all the QBs have a hard time getting the ball out on time except Peters. Totally understand the talent difference made it hard on the blue QBs. All this makes me fell like accuracy with getting the ball out your hands on time is the most important skill. Would love for Spann to be able to do it but I think all the other QBs default to running after their 1st read.

Brave Illini on April 21, 2021 @ 02:45 PM

The data from the game is insufficient to draw such conclusions. (I was there) What would Williams's stats have been had he started and played the first half for the Orange team? We don't know but we know he performed well for Orange in the small amount of time he quarterbacked them. I don't think you can conclude much about the play of the Blue team quarterbacks, as they were under pressure soon after the snap, and they were looking for 2d and 3d team receivers. I remain guardedly optimistic about our quarterback play come Fall.

Nashvegas Illini on April 21, 2021 @ 03:27 PM

I don't disagree, just reading tea leaves. You don't get any credit for predictions if you wait until everyone knows. :)

tednocella@gmail.com on April 21, 2021 @ 10:06 AM

Two questions:

  1. Maybe I missed it but wasn't Spann getting reps ahead of Robinson?
  2. Personally, I'd be shocked if Eddie Smith isn't starting. Former Top 500 recruit who was the primary guy off the bench in the National Championship game for Alabama when their starter got hurt. Feels like we have maybe 3-4 guys that would crack Alabama's two-deep - seems like one of their two deep safeties is transferring in. Here's my question: Is my read way off here?

Robert on April 21, 2021 @ 10:43 AM

Answers:

  1. Robinson and Taylor each got snaps with the Blue Team once Isaiah Williams went over to the Orange Team in the second half. But both only attempted one pass. Spann got a full series with the Orange Team (3 for 4 for 58 yards, 3 rushes for 25 yards). I know Spann was 5th in all drills to start the spring and then he moved to 4th ahead of Taylor. Perhaps he's now 3rd ahead of Robinson.

  2. I think the "primary backup" stuff for Eddie Smith was not true. In that LLUOI post I included links to articles saying that Eddie Smith played in the title game when their starting safety was ejected but someone commented that the article was incorrect and it was another safety who came in. PFF charts all of the snaps for every play of the college season (they have someone chart the player numbers for every single play) and Smith shows as having 0 snaps in the title game. In three seasons they show him with 67 total plays. 49 as a freshman, 1 as a sophomore, 18 as a junior.

Not saying he won't play for us - the 7th Alabama safety is generally better than our best safety - but I've backed off some of my excitement after seeing that the "primary backup" reports were not true.

tednocella@gmail.com on April 21, 2021 @ 11:01 AM

Thanks Robert, you're the best. Except now I have to back off my excitement re: Smith too. :)

FME on April 21, 2021 @ 04:22 PM

I think Pearl is the top competitor for that left guard spot. Bart Miller raved about him unprovoked in his most recent press conference. He also said he wanted to get the best 5 on the field even if it meant moving guys around.

CapitalCityOutlaw50 on April 23, 2021 @ 10:11 AM

So, at this point the "Beason to WR" move STILL wont likely get him on the field much?

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